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Matt
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From Matt to everyone в 12:41, 13/06/10 Reply | Reply in new thread | Edit

I believe the following profiles will try to bait members here to sign up with http://www.uadreams.com:

ID: 256940
My name is Alena, i'm 20 y.o. woman, my zodiac sign is Gemini.
Athletic build; height: 165 cm. (5' 4" ; weight: 43 kg. (94 lbs.);
My native language is Russian, but i also speak English and Ukrainian.

and

ID: 318513
My name is IAna, i'm 19 y.o. woman, my zodiac sign is Aquarius.
Athletic build; height: 163 cm. (5' 4" ; weight: 50 kg. (110 lbs.);
My native language is Ukrainian, but i also speak English, Polish and Russian.

I can confirm from personal experience that Alena told me that her English wasn't so good and for ease of translation she wanted to send me a link to another site where she was a member, which would facilitate communication for her. Turned out I received an invitation to UA Dreams. But...at least the English language communication I received from her on UA Dreams is much better.

As for Iana, I noticed her profile on UA Dreams, too, and when questioning her on Gimeney as to her presence on UA Dreams of course I did not receive a reply.

UA Dreams tries to get its members to pay for outgoing correspondence, receiving pictures from ladies, video chat etc. I have little confidence in whether or not the correspondence is actually with the ladies or with some translator only. They tend to sandbag you when proposing Skype or other means of communication. That much I discovered with the three or five free letters they allow new members.

Anyone have reliable information on whether or not that site is legit?


Aleksandr
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From Aleksandr to Matt в 15:10, 15/06/10 Reply | Reply in new thread | Edit

Matt:I believe the following profiles will try to bait members here to sign up with http://www.uadreams.com:

ID: 256940
My name is Alena, i'm 20 y.o. woman, my zodiac sign is Gemini.
Athletic build; height: 165 cm. (5' 4" ; weight: 43 kg. (94 lbs.);
My native language is Russian, but i also speak English and Ukrainian.
This one is ad for sure. And i wouldn't trust sites that phising for clients on free sites with nice photos.


Olav Arne
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From Olav Arne to Matt в 20:46, 19/06/10 Reply | Reply in new thread | Edit

Matt:Anyone have reliable information on whether or not that site is legit?
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Hi Matt,
As a general rule, stay far away from sites where you yourself don't control what information goes in and out. Even if the lady do excist, your correspondence goes no further than to the translators in the office. They are paid to keep the correspondence going and will write only what you (and the lady want to hear - if she by chance should know about you...).
Always remember, this is a business. It's not about getting you married asap, if that happens, you stop writing and they lose revenue...
Cynical? Naaaa...only welcome to internet dating...

It's far better to use free sites like this one, or paying sites where you can correspond directly (without any agency translation), share phone #, Skype, whatever. Only remember, scammers and sites like UA Dreams are fishing for clients on ALL sites. You, and we all, will just have to use our common sense and not buy into all we are told, no matter how beautiful the lady is
Like Nick from this site once said 'be skeptical even if you are in bed with the lady'...


john
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From john to Matt в 13:12, 23/06/10 Reply | Reply in new thread | Edit

Matt:I believe the following profiles will try to bait members here to sign up with http://www.uadreams.com:

ID: 256940
My name is Alena, i'm 20 y.o. woman, my zodiac sign is Gemini.
Athletic build; height: 165 cm. (5' 4" ; weight: 43 kg. (94 lbs.);
My native language is Russian, but i also speak English and Ukrainian.

Anyone have reliable information on whether or not that site is legit?
Hi Matt

Marisa on Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:11 am exposes the uadreams scam here http://bit.ly/bICJXu How it works

by fragov http://bit.ly/4EpF0k on Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:41 pm & by fragov on Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:59 pm

“I had a contact who was working in UA Dreams. And she said that most of mails are written by translators, girls don't even know that somebody are sending mails from their accounts.

On other hand, girls sometimes go to such agencies to get free professional photos. But they have to sign a contract, by which they have to answer on calls, than foreign clients calling them.”

I suspect that fragov is Jim who has an anti scam site - http://bit.ly/chYBJS

There are now 37 pages on this Forum exposing uadreams and ualadys!
http://www.delphifaq.com/faq/russian_marriage_scams/f5332.shtml#comments
Vicoz who started this thread received a private email (not via uadreams.com but until February 2008 they were the same company)

"Hello xxxxx

I am so sad and even angry to hear such awful news! I do not have any relations with Ualadys after winter! I had bad relations with that agency, because the director and the owner of agency are not true people! They write letters by themsel without women!

I thought that they removed me from the agency! But they did not do it! And can you imagine? That they have foun? my photos and copy them, from such site as odnoklassnik! Do you know about it? It is like ISQ? but here yoy can find your friends and classmates!

I do not know what to do !

I called to the agency, but secretary said that she did not know anything!

So, I hope that you will believe me!
I do not have reason to lie ypou and to write to you through the agency, as I write to you by myself!

We can do an expariment! My favorite flower is white tulip and my favorite food is cheese! Ask these questions to me through the GENCY! You wil see that the answers are not correct!

I hope that you will not write to that unfair agency! They even talk girls do not speak by Englisg, even if you know!

Dasha"

Both company´s pedigree can be found here
http://bit.ly/agitG7
My investingation would indicate that in view of the scam reputation that it attracted the name Confidential Connections was changed to ualadys.com

In the article (link above) the name of Ben Olivares crops up. The authorities have allowed him to run free to date and 10 years later a victim is trying to find him in relation to a GOLD MINE SCAM http://scr.bi/buKPmt There is quite a bit of information on the founder of CC Steve Salvesen http://bit.ly/9bD994

"No smoke without fire" You could get emotionally burnt by corresponding with someone from these agencies

The standard intiatial letter is just not sent to you but many people as well and if you have received one you may feel that it was specially written to you
see - http://bit.ly/50eNAC A person in Australia and Venezuela have received identical letters from the same women as me!

more examples
http://myuadreamsexperience.blogspot.com
http://myualadysexperience.blogspot.com
and much to the annoyance of the management of the company my experience and investigation I have published here! http://bit.ly/1oBL1E In the search box just type in uadreams or scam.


If you are a victim of a scam?

INTERPOL general contact details
You can get in touch with INTERPOL using the contact details below. Your message will be forwarded to the appropriate department but please note that we are unable to respond to all queries.
INTERPOL
General Secretariat
200, quai Charles de Gaulle
69006 Lyon
France
Fax: +33 (0)4 72 44 71 63
Contact INTERPOL
e-mail link http://www.interpol.int/public/mail/mail3.asp?id=info

For uadreams/ualadys & any other scam originating from the Ukraine mark for the attention of Mr Rotislav Verheles, Head of the National Central Bureau of Interpol His address is Ministry of Internal Affairs, 10, Bohomoltsa Str.Kiev Ukraine but you can send it online by the above-mentioned url which allows you to send attachments.

Links to international law enforcement web sites, listed by country http://bit.ly/dmc0qM should you need to contact them in the first instance

I hope that this information is of assistance to you?
You might also like to check this site up http://www.samepoint.com/?q=www.uadreams.com&searchb=+search+social+media+ to see what people are saying about uadreams


Matt
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From Matt to everyone в 11:01, 25/06/10 Reply | Reply in new thread | Edit

Thank you, guys, for sharing your opinions with me!


Nona
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From Nona to Matt в 12:03, 03/07/10 Reply | Reply in new thread | Edit

[[ Ответить: 188983 ]]
Я считаю, что следующие профили попытается спровоцировать членов здесь, чтобы зарегистрироваться http://www.uadreams.com :

ID: 256940
Меня зовут Алена , я 20 y.o. женщина , мой знак зодиака Близнецы .
Спортивный построить высота: 165 см. (5 ' 4 " , вес : 43 кг. (94 кг . );
Мой родной язык русский, но я также говорят на английском и украинском языках.

и

ID: 318513
Меня зовут Яна , я 19 y.o. женщина , мой знак зодиака Водолей является .
Спортивный построить высота: 163 см. (5 ' 4 " , вес : 50 кг. (110 кг . );
Мой родной язык украинский, но я также говорю на английском, польском и русском языках.

Я могу подтвердить из личного опыта , что Алена сказала мне, что ее английский не так хорошо, и для облегчения перевода она хотела отправить мне ссылку на другой сайт, где она была членом , который будет содействовать связи для нее. Оказалось, что я получил приглашение на UA Dreams. Но ... по крайней мере английский язык общения я получил от нее на UA Dreams гораздо лучше.

Что касается Яна , я заметил ее профиль на UA Dreams , слишком , и когда ее расспрашивать о Гименей , по ее присутствие на UA Dreams , конечно, я не получил ответа.

UA Dreams пытается получить ее членов платить за исходящую корреспонденцию , получать фотографии с дамами , видео-чат и т.д. Я не доверяют или не соответствие фактически с дамами или с переводчиком только. Они , как правило, песком вам, когда предлагает Skype или других средств связи. Это я обнаружил с 3 или 5 свободных письмах они позволяют новых членов.

Не важно иметь достоверную информацию о том или нет, что сайт является законным ?
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